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Post Ew, this one came out ugly...
Sometimes, kids are just born ugly.

(first mix removed :red: updated one here: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... D=10489062 )

Little overboard maybe on the low end, and the bassline didn't sound out of key when i recorded it, but there is one chord that sounds that way to me now every time it comes up.

The toms are taking up probably too much space. I wanted them to boom, i think they boomed their pants.

See that, full circle to the ugly child.

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Well the toms are definitely booming.



... still sounds better than my mixes ...

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Post Re: Ew, this one came out ugly...
Hi-hat is high.

Other then that, youre the master of your tone, so Ill just say that I listened to the song. :cop:

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GnarlySheen wrote:
Hi-hat is high.



Yeah I kinda got that too.

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Post Re: Ew, this one came out ugly...
Snare needs more mids and volume, high hat needs less uber-highs, toms sound pretty epic, actually.

Double track the riff and you've got yourself a cool mix.


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Post Re: Ew, this one came out ugly...
GnarlySheen wrote:
Hi-hat is high.

Other then that, youre the master of your tone, so Ill just say that I listened to the song. :cop:


What, you don't like the epic sound of a solid state Crate practice amp? :lol:

Also, yeah, i think i forgot to remove an EQ i was experimenting with on the drum buss. :red: That is where the Uber Hats are coming from.

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metalfanat1c wrote:
Snare needs more mids and volume, high hat needs less uber-highs, toms sound pretty epic, actually.

Double track the riff and you've got yourself a cool mix.


The toms, unfortunately, are what is blocking out the snare. :lol: That and the reverb on it, i don't think fits quite. It makes it sound darker than it should.

Also the guitars are doubletracked. But it is weird, while i like the way this guitar(mid seventies SG) sounds by itself, it is kind of ass in the mix. I have run into that before. I am not a big fan of fucking with guitars too much with EQ, except for odd effect, so i will probably just do it with the tele some other time. Because that basically just needs a little high passing and done.

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Post Re: Ew, this one came out ugly...
If you were to pan the guitars not-mono, you'd have better luck with the snare. :nods:

I imagine the mono-ness of the whole thing is eating the snare alive.


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metalfanat1c wrote:
If you were to pan the guitars not-mono, you'd have better luck with the snare. :nods:

I imagine the mono-ness of the whole thing is eating the snare alive.


The only things down the middle of this mix are the kick, the snare, and one of the fuzz guitars. I think maybe i played the doubles too close or something. Because, i hear what you are saying, but all of the guitars are panned all over the place. There are like four tracks of clean and four tracks of fuzz. Two tracks of each are panned hard left and right, and two are panned at something like 50-60% left and right. Then there is just one fuzz right up the middle.

Frankly, there are way more guitars on here than i would prefer.

Anyhow, here is another mix, with the toms pulled back a little, and the sizzle Eq removed:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... D=10489062

The hats are still loud, but that is more from the snare mic bleed now, because i bumped the limiter on there a bit. Also, i messed with the guitars a little.

I don't actually know if this is even a better mix. I think i have kind of toasted my ears at this point. :lol:

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Post Re: Ew, this one came out ugly...
I'd probably lose the center guitar track altogether... once it leaves it sounds much more "natural".


I think I'd also bring up the level of the drums as a whole... they're pretty buried.


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Post Re: Ew, this one came out ugly...
And the bass guitar is missing. :lol:

Also that mix doesn't have the centered fuzz on it.

I will do one more tonight. Then i am not going to touch this one again until at least tomorrow.

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Last one i am doing today:

EDIT: No it wasn't.

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Oh, and i will have to look at it tomorrow with fresh eyes because that hi-hat bleed is fucking brutal on this. I almost think i must have some sort of compressor doubled or something because this is the exact same mic setup i have been using for the last few things, and the hat bleed has been nowhere close to this bad until this one.

Fucking ugly kids. :mad:

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chris_d wrote:
Last one i am doing today:


I definitely lied:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... D=10489062

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Post Re: Ew, this one came out ugly...
Enjoyed the first one, second one sounds greatgreat. :isay:

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Yeah, the "second one" is now officially the sixth one. I just updated that file, rather than having like six equally shit versions up at once.

I left the first one up though, for reference. This last one is more closely related to that one than the other four, with the bigger toms and whatnot.

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I like the guitar sounds a lot. I'll get back to you on the mix when I can evaluate it proper.

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Snaxocaster wrote:
I like the guitar sounds a lot. I'll get back to you on the mix when I can evaluate it proper.


You can skip over the first one, and just go straight to the last one(i.e. the second one in the OP). I am probably going to remove the first one. I am not really happy with the last one(overdone toms moastly, and lost the attack of them innit), but it is good enough for something as simple as this halfsong. :idk:

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Post Re: Ew, this one came out ugly...
I dig this a bunch. The drums are really far back in the mix though... they need to be more present. Not necessarily all that much louder, the snare just needs more cut. The mix is a bit boomy but in kind of a cool way. I like the guitar tones, they fit the song real well.


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