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Author:  metalfanat1c [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  WIP Mouth for War cover.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8290798/mouth%2 ... %20wip.mp3


Just seeing if the Stereo Chorus sounds good for it.

Think I'll use my XXX on the final version if I ever do it.

Author:  eddiemunster666 [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

Did you record a clean guitar sound? If yes I'd like to try reamping it over here.......

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

eddiemunster666 wrote:
Did you record a clean guitar sound? If yes I'd like to try reamping it over here.......



No but I will if you'd like. Give me like 20 minutes.

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8290798/mouth%2 ... 20left.wav < left DI

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8290798/mouth%2 ... 0right.wav < right DI

Probably not the tightest ever.

Author:  eddiemunster666 [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

Was expecting mono tracks but I tried them anyway....

Can find them here...
ftp://ftp.deadfootstudios.com/public_ft ... uthForWar/

NO EQ on any tracks. Go ahead and play around with them and let me know what you think. Just doing some experimenting over here......


03=>motu 24 I/0 -> reamp box -> peavey 5150 -> stock marshall 1960b cabinet -> sm57 position 3 -> tascam 3700(insert La2a) -> motu 24 I/0 -> Mac G5

04=> same as 03 but NO La2a and mic is in position 5
05=03
06=04
07=Mix of 03 and 04(has plugin compression)
08=Mix of 05 and 06(has plugin compression)
09=Stereo Mix of 07 and 08
10=Stereo Mix of 07 and 08 with plugin Limiter and Oxford Inflator

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

Will tinker tomorrow. Should be fun to use someone else's guitars in a mix... I never have before.


EDIT: Need username+password.

Author:  eddiemunster666 [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

I put them here now. You shouldn't need a id/password. Let me know if you have troubles downloading them....

http://www.deadfootstudios.com/maps/MouthForWar/

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

Got 'em.

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8290798/mouth%2 ... reamps.mp3


Here it is with Eddie's reamps. Pretty good tones... needed quite a bit of post EQ/scoopage though.

Author:  GnarlySheen [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

OP post sounds better than the re amp imo. :rawk:

Author:  eddiemunster666 [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

Ah. I noticed the scooping it needed as well but I left them no eq. I haven't used my guitar to record this song but reamping with my own stuff seems to not to need the radical scooping. Here's my setup to make my clean sound.

All Maple neck through body V -> Kramer dual rails pickup (12.5K) -> Homemade Hansen Active DI box

Just for the record, my 5150 has bias mod with fairly fresh tubes. I used the high gain input with the lead channel. I only put the pre gain knob 1/2 way. Most people set it higher to get a more distorted sound.

I would be curious of your setup. I have read active EMG pickups are not that desirable to record with and when using active pickups you should use a passive DI box. I also have read that when using passive pickups you shouldn't use the real hot ones like an Invader for example since that is between 15k-16K.

I think you did a great job mixing it in your recording for what its worth. Guitars sound is in your face as opposed to your original mix where the guitar was in the background more.

Author:  Devtron [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:03 pm ]
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I think both of those toanes would sound pretty spiffy mixed together :rawk:

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

eddiemunster666 wrote:
Ah. I noticed the scooping it needed as well but I left them no eq. I haven't used my guitar to record this song but reamping with my own stuff seems to not to need the radical scooping. Here's my setup to make my clean sound.

All Maple neck through body V -> Kramer dual rails pickup (12.5K) -> Homemade Hansen Active DI box

Just for the record, my 5150 has bias mod with fairly fresh tubes. I used the high gain input with the lead channel. I only put the pre gain knob 1/2 way. Most people set it higher to get a more distorted sound.

I would be curious of your setup. I have read active EMG pickups are not that desirable to record with and when using active pickups you should use a passive DI box. I also have read that when using passive pickups you shouldn't use the real hot ones like an Invader for example since that is between 15k-16K.

I think you did a great job mixing it in your recording for what its worth. Guitars sound is in your face as opposed to your original mix where the guitar was in the background more.



Setup is Ibanez EX-1500 (maple everything, JB in the bridge) > Profire 2626 > Reaper.


I tend to record megascooped tones... they're easy to find space for. :nods:

Author:  eddiemunster666 [ Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

Ok I see the difference here.

I do the following....

guitar -> active DI box -> XLR mic input to Mixer -> motu 24 I/O -> reaper

You take a short cut and use the profire 2626 as the direct box. You don't have a quality active direct box lying around over there so you can do the following???

guitar -> active DI box -> XLR mic input to Profire 2626 -> reaper

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

eddiemunster666 wrote:
Ok I see the difference here.

I do the following....

guitar -> active DI box -> XLR mic input to Mixer -> motu 24 I/O -> reaper

You take a short cut and use the profire 2626 as the direct box. You don't have a quality active direct box lying around over there so you can do the following???

guitar -> active DI box -> XLR mic input to Profire 2626 -> reaper


Right. I can't tell the difference between plugging into the 2626, and reampling or plugging into the amp.

Author:  torgeot [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

I like them both and would like to hear them mixed, but I think I prefer Eddie's reamp on them over the two on a winner gets to live contest.

Thunderdome?

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

Oh, and I had a 6505 for a good amount of time... I usually ran the pre-gain at 3 (numbers, not clock face). I am not a gain-aholic... at least not with those amps. The lower you set the gain, the better they sound until they get all thin and shit.

Author:  eddiemunster666 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

What I'm trying to determine is why when I reamp your clean sound it sounds like it has too much midrange. I'm tinkering now with my guitar recording the clean sound and I'll try to get some answers.

Also, what set up did you use for your original recording?

Author:  metalfanat1c [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

eddiemunster666 wrote:
What I'm trying to determine is why when I reamp your clean sound it sounds like it has too much midrange. I'm tinkering now with my guitar recording the clean sound and I'll try to get some answers.

Also, what set up did you use for your original recording?


Straight into the amp.


I already have the answer to that. Your guitar is not maple, therefore it is not all midrange.

Author:  eddiemunster666 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WIP Mouth for War cover.

But how did you record the amp? 1 mic 2 mics?

My guitar is all maple.

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