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Author:  Devtron [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:24 am ]
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Strats, teles, jazzes and jags.

All stripped down versions with mostly buckers, running ~$450 new.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/blacktop
Author:  Devtron [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:28 am ]
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Thinking about picking up one of these to slap some wide-ranges in.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=H61570
Author:  chris_d [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:35 am ]
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While i do not dislike any of them, neither would i be inclined to buy any of them.

Also, for me, swapping the pickups would be high on my list if i were to acquire one somehow. I am not really into fullsize humbuckers in fenders. Rail buckers, absolutely, but fullsized ones, i have not liked too much on their own.

I haven't spent any time with the wide range style fender ones though. I might like those, from what i have heard of them. :idea:
Author:  Devtron [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:50 am ]
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chris_d wrote:
While i do not dislike any of them, neither would i be inclined to buy any of them.

Also, for me, swapping the pickups would be high on my list if i were to acquire one somehow. I am not really into fullsize humbuckers in fenders. Rail buckers, absolutely, but fullsized ones, i have not liked too much on their own.

I haven't spent any time with the wide range style fender ones though. I might like those, from what i have heard of them. :idea:


I've played a couple of guitars with them, and I like them. They are kinda mellow though, though I think the GFS ones may be a bit hotter (and standard hum sized).
Author:  torgeot [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:14 pm ]
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I like the Wide Range in the neck position in my deluxe, but the bridge one was lacking when I had one, I have different taste now than I did, when I took the WR out of the bridege on my last Deluxe. The current deluxe did not come with the wide range.... It has Duncan Distortion....
Author:  Unstrung [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:29 pm ]
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chris_d wrote:
While i do not dislike any of them, neither would i be inclined to buy any of them.

This.
Author:  Snaxocaster [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:21 pm ]
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I like the aesthetics of these, except the Strats. Two 'buckers in a Strat just doesn't look right to me. (Somehow it is acceptable in a Tele.)

Actually, I would totally hit the Tele. Or the Jaguar. A pickup swap would, natürlich, be in order.
Author:  torgeot [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:31 pm ]
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Snaxocaster wrote:
I like the aesthetics of these, except the Strats. Two 'buckers in a Strat just doesn't look right to me. (Somehow it is acceptable in a Tele.)

Actually, I would totally hit the Tele. Or the Jaguar. A pickup swap would, natürlich, be in order.

true, if a strat has a bucker it needs to be HSS :hitler:

otherwise :barf:
Author:  Snaxocaster [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:17 am ]
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Two 'buckers and a full-size pickguard looks off, somehow. Two 'buckers in a Strat-shaped body is its own thing and should be pickguardless.

Now, a Tele with a single in the bridge and a 'bucker in the neck is absolutely acceptable. The bridge pickup is what makes a Tele a Tele.

With two 'buckers in a Strat, you lose much of its inherent Stratishness. Positions 2, 3, 4 and 5 are all their own ideosyncratic thing. Though 2 and 4 can be swapped with each other interchangeably. The neck pickup (and to a lesser extent, the middle, which I've come to prefer for non-high gain rhythm work) is what makes a Strat a Strat. If you want an awesome neck humbucker tone, that's what a Les Paul is for.
Author:  Devtron [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:45 pm ]
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The only strat I want these days is a lime green single bucker Kramer Pacer. Or just a Kramer neck on a single bucker lime green strat body. Either way, you get the idea.
Author:  chris_d [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:48 pm ]
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Tyrannosaurus Reich wrote:
The only strat I want these days is a lime green single bucker Kramer Pacer. Or just a Kramer neck on a single bucker lime green strat body. Either way, you get the idea.


FUCK YES.
Author:  Devtron [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:49 pm ]
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chris_d wrote:
Tyrannosaurus Reich wrote:
The only strat I want these days is a lime green single bucker Kramer Pacer. Or just a Kramer neck on a single bucker lime green strat body. Either way, you get the idea.


FUCK YES.


I would name it "Cock Extension".

I think you and I talked this guitar out.

IIRC, you wanted the tele version?
Author:  chris_d [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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Nah son, for that style, it HAS to be a strat shape, IMO. :huzzah:

Also, must have a Floyd Rose!
Author:  Devtron [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:55 pm ]
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chris_d wrote:
Nah son, for that style, it HAS to be a strat shape, IMO. :huzzah:

Also, must have a Floyd Rose!


A couple of months ago I would have said nevar.

But nowadays I would be into it.
Author:  torgeot [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:22 pm ]
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dude on HC Classifieds has a new silver tele blacktop for sale for 425.


and Cock Extension is screamin' 80's. Very Hip.
Author:  Broseidon [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:12 pm ]
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chris_d wrote:
Nah son, for that style, it HAS to be a strat shape, IMO. :huzzah:

Also, must have a Floyd Rose!


Wasn't your first geetar a shredder-type like that?
Author:  chris_d [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:29 pm ]
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Broseidon wrote:
chris_d wrote:
Nah son, for that style, it HAS to be a strat shape, IMO. :huzzah:

Also, must have a Floyd Rose!


Wasn't your first geetar a shredder-type like that?


Sort of, not really though.

It was this:
Image
(this picture obviously after i destroyed it and changed the pickups and bridge)

White, single coil in the neck, and a cheaper licensed Floyd. The body is toast now, but the neck is still awesome. All i need is a new lime green body and the bridge. :idea:
Author:  Broseidon [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:43 pm ]
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You'll be needing one of these pickups:

Image

:idea:
Author:  chris_d [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:50 pm ]
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lolno.
Author:  Broseidon [ Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:52 pm ]
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I thought it was a novel idea.
:red:
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