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Author: | torgeot [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:36 pm ] | |||||||||
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My chick does this to me. We went to see a friends band Saturnight and the guitarist had a real nice Soldano combo (in purpley purple no less) and it sounded just great. My chick says to me I should have that cute purple amp so I mentioned it may not quite be in the budget at the moment. I start talking to the guitarist between sets about gear meaning to get around as to what model the map was but we talked about guitars for so long I never found out. I talked to the singer today (also the singer/other guitarist in my acoustoproject) and he was telling me that dude spent around 5k for that amp. Yeah that's a bit over my current budget. |
Author: | chris_d [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:40 pm ] |
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That clean channel doesn't have a fuckton going on. I am actually a little surprised that it is dirty enough for you with that 30w output section. Gain-wise, it shouldn't put out a terribly huger amount of distortion than the Z Maz. It is a different flavor though, and IIRC, has the classic voxy/matchless violent PI sort of ideas. Interesting. I actually don't know of an amp that is a 30w EL34 Matchless Spitfire clone with a Vox-esque 5-way tone switch. I will be curious to see what Badcat suggests. |
Author: | Snaxocaster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:54 pm ] |
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I was surprised at how much dirt I got out of the thing without pegging the volume. I would be totally happy with that + some pedals when violence is necessary. The gain channel has far more gain, even with single coils, than I've used in years. The Z was a lot cleaner- even running flat out it barely broke up at all- and the feel was very stiff. |
Author: | chris_d [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:58 pm ] |
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Aye, i think that if they were a bit dirtier, i would probably dig the Maz. |
Author: | Snaxocaster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:01 pm ] | |||||||||
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Up all the way, it is roughly as clean as my clean tone and feels like a JMP on, like, 2. The feel of the thing is very Marshally, very dry and stiff, despite the power tubes doing their business. It's not a bad sounding amp by any stretch, but it's not for me. I still haven't heard back from Bad Cat. |
Author: | Snaxocaster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:04 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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That's probably an SLO combo, then, by the price. Not exactly common, either. It is probably full of Warren Haynes-y goodness. But yeah, you should get that cute purple amp. |
Author: | chris_d [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:12 pm ] | |||||||||
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Aye, but i run humbuckers aboot 90% of the time, so it would be a bit different. Did they have any other Zs there or just the Maz? |
Author: | Snaxocaster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:19 pm ] |
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This is true. You'd definitely get more grit out of the thing. The 18w Maz sounds like it's just loud enough to hang with a drummer of reasonable loudness. There was a Galaxie head, a couple cabs, and a 2x10 Maz combo that were out on the floor. We had to bail though, so I didn't get to give the Galaxie a shot. I have no idea what it's supposed to be like. |
Author: | torgeot [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:02 pm ] |
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fuck I want another amp... I hate myself. I gigged last night using the Bug, which I like the clean channel and usually just overdrive it with the OCD, but I tried the drive channel which I could not use the OCD with at all with about not dirt on it at all, I was very unhappy with it uless I just used the dirt on the amp alone. Problem is I usually like just a touch of dirt on a dirt channel then a real nice clean channel, but I did not get the droids I was looking for last night. I love the Rebel tone but alas, one channel. Didn't want to breal out the 6100 and 2x12 for a quite benefit gig... |
Author: | Snaxocaster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:11 pm ] |
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Second Rebel + A/B switch? |
Author: | Devtron [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:16 pm ] | |||||||||
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That would actually be kind of cool. Or, Second Rebel and Cab + A/B/Y switch for stereo options |
Author: | Snaxocaster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:26 pm ] |
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Stereo is awesome if you can get away with it. |
Author: | Devtron [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:29 pm ] | |||||||||
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I really wish I could. I do run my guitar to two amps simultaneously from time to time. I use my Whammy or the Chorus pedal to split the signals. I usually run my FXed up stuff through the Vox AD30 on a cleanish AC30 model, then run a dry signal through a fuzz into a dirty map. It works well, but I have yet to figure out how to mic it properly. |
Author: | Snaxocaster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:39 pm ] |
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Very carefully. Alternately, with a pointed stick. Really, depends on what you're going for with the stereo-ness, whether you're trying to layer tones or if you're going for a big wide ambient... stereo thing. It may also help to have pairs of mics for this. Or not. It's more a matter of how you want to fit it into the mix, and work from there. |
Author: | Devtron [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:47 pm ] | |||||||||
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I am using the Audix OM2 and the Blue Ball mic through my Micromix. I might use 1 mic per speaker (orange to Hellatone 30 and Vox with it's crappy stock speaker), and pan them to different sides. I really just do it for a more layered sounds, and because supa-fuzz and modulations don't seem to agree. So I keep them separated. |
Author: | torgeot [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:00 pm ] |
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I stereo my DSL & 6100 at home a lot. But 'tis not a great small club package as such. also, yes I like the Rebel Tone but with a/b ing them I would either have to use second cab or put each head through one of the speakers which is not so bad. This may actually be an option as I am typing a respose. Although I myself have been intrigued with a couple of new combo maps as I have been looking today. |
Author: | Snaxocaster [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:02 pm ] |
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Valid point- two Marshall stacks is not a particularly good small club rig. What combo maps have you been eying? |
Author: | torgeot [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:45 pm ] |
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hmm, well looking at a Splawn and you would never guess... a Bogner Shiva There are a few others I am looking at but will need to really try more of them out. |
Author: | torgeot [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:48 pm ] |
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Realistically I would dig an amp that gives me 6L6 (6V6) clean and EL34 dirty but not too dirty. I still like to be able to boost with my dirt box. I am actually very happy with my 6100 but it is fuckton heavy in it's case and I still lug a 2x12. |
Author: | chris_d [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:49 pm ] |
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Tor, have you ever taken a look at the Jet City stuff? Basically Chinese versions of Soldano circuits, some interesting amps, not very pricy. Maybe worth checking out anyhoo. |
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