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| Author: | torgeot [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 6100 fizz |
So I use my 6100LM for the GnR band, 3 channels and about as nice a clean channel as Marshall makes. Just has been seeming too fizzy. Thinking I either have to crank the shit out of it, and use an attenuator or what I've been doing to tame the fizz is use my new Catalinbread DLS which really does drive it without fizz. (I also hit the Timmy after the DLS) It's just a tap dance from clean to dirty.... anyone have thoughts? |
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| Author: | chris_d [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
What speakarz? The only real 'solution' i know of for marshalls of that ilk is crankedness.  Personally, i don't have much love of attenuators, but one thing they can do, is cut the high end out of something.  Myself, i would probably be inclined to go with the simplest working solution, which might be pedals. I have just been a lot less picky and a lot less patient lately. |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
I have 2 greenback and 2 vintage 30's. I tried 2 at a time, same thing. It's just premap fizz, and I eq very bassy, not getting any muddiness. For now I will just do the pedals. I will need to do a bypass looper at some point. As I remember these marshalls kinda come into their own after about 6 on the powermap side..... |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
also, I think I have gotten really spoiled with the Bogner. But the GnR thing is as much a visual thing, live they used Marshalls so that's what we are using (well slash is using a Marshall emblemed Soldano...) |
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| Author: | Unstrung [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
I thought Izzy uses a Bassman anyway... 
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| Author: | knope [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
Wouldn't a loop pedal work? Put the Timmy and the DLS though the loop and Bam! One stomp dirty!  $30-$40 |
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| Author: | Snaxocaster [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:05 pm ] | |||||||||
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I remember it being Mesa Marks? Funny, that. The cure for Marshalls in my experience is volume. Which is unfortunate. JVM seems to be a different animal, but 6 on the master is pretty accurate. Needs the power section to start getting ornery to really get "that sound". And I always EQed 'em really dark, too; something about the way the treble was voiced. As an aside, as much as I don't like 75s (commonly paired with Marshalls, though you are not using those) I always felt they smoothed out when pushed. (I do like them with 5150s, but that might be the scoop thing hitting in the right place.) |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
I too believe it was Mesa's. But I've been wrong a few times.... Yeah the louder the 6100 was the better it sounded. I still did the tap dancing all night, Time for a loop. No GnR shows until Feb (We're playing with Dizzy Reed) so I will need to get one together.
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| Author: | Zozobra [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
Tried the old EQ in the loop trick? |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:16 pm ] | |||||||||
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Actually I brought a GE-7 with me to the gig and was all ready to do just that, but once I got the volume up it was so much better. 
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| Author: | torgeot [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
ok so I've decided the 6100 is going. The only time I've been happy with it recently has been when I use the green (Clean) channel and then hit it with an OD pedlol. (Been using the Maxon OD0808) So I'm going to actually get another Shiva in head form, one shiva is good, two must be better. I will change the name plate and gussy it up as a Marshall (for the GnR Shows). Local guy has a Shiva head for teh cheaps. so I put the 6100 up on TGP for sale. meanwhile I can use the JMP with OD if I sell the 6100 and don't have the Shiva yet. |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
oh, I thought about making a headshell for the Shiva Combo I have but I do some shows withing 24 hours of the other band so changing it out all the time might suck hard. Buying the headshell from Reinhold is about $350, I could make one, but changing it out all the time would not be good for the map |
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| Author: | Devtron [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:19 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz | |||||||||
Buy an empty Marshall head cab, put it on top of an appropriate 4x12. Put the Shiva combo behind the speaker cabinet, plug the combo into the speaker cabinet. Play through the Shiva, keep an empty Marshall head on stage for appearances. Channel the 80s. |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
If the Shiva combo was not so fucking heavy it would be an option. |
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| Author: | Devtron [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:24 am ] | |||||||||
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True that. Fucking combos man, fucking combos. Inconveniently convenient. |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
I believe it is up there in weight with the AC30 and DR |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
oh the DR is light compared to the AC30 and Shiva.... |
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| Author: | chris_d [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
Just how heavy is it? Is that a 1x12 or a 2x cab? |
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| Author: | torgeot [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:42 am ] | |||||||||
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1x12 ported 80lbs? Officially says 68 lbs |
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| Author: | chris_d [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 6100 fizz |
Yarr. I just czeched the Bogner site. The 2x12 is actually pretty much the same weight even. No doubt that is a big part of why it sounds awesome though. Size and mass in the cab and magnets are pretty much required for "smaller" amps to sound right. 70 lbs is pretty brootz though. |
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