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Post Re: Oh shit, is that Geoff I hear on some surf guitar..?
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Snax-o, that is awesome. I need Logic in my life.


Yes you do. Didn't you experiment with a Hackintosh a while back, or am I remembering wrong?

If you do any kind of sequencing work at all, Logic is, IMO, your best option. And the stock plugins and software instruments are probably the best of any freebies that come with DAW software by far. By fathoms. By leagues. They are totally usable alongside all my nice stuff and not CPU-intensive at all. I tend to use them for things I want clean-and-transparent for, but the compressor and tape delay can add some real nice color if you tweak 'em right. The "platinum" setting on the compressor is superclean transparent compression, but when you get into the modeling section, the Class A, VCA, FET and Opto settings, you can do some Nice Things with very, very little load on your machine.

Also, the ESX24 sampler and Ultrabeat sampling drum machine plugins are super-powerful; I haven't even explored what I can really get them to do besides make a couple sampled instruments and sampling some drums off my Alesis. Oh, and the stock sounds- the drum stuff especially- are completely workwithable. It's quite easy to take a preset that's usable as-is, tweak from there and create something very cool.

For those who have experience with old versions of Logic, IMO the best thing Apple did with it was to rework the user interface to conform to their overall ethic of "retardedly simple to use". Having played around with old versions years ago, I found the name very, very ironic!

With Garda (my gothy electrorocky band), we're standardizing on Logic as our DAW platform on our home setups and at our studio, to the point that our other guitarist is planning on buying a Mac in the near future for the sole purpose of running Logic. As it stands now our bassist and I have it on our personal machines and it's on both computers here at 'Drome II, one being a dedicated recording machine and the other a controller for our lighting rig and backing tracks for gigging purposes. We're planning on upgrading to 9 Pro in the near future, all of us. Since I've been collaborating with my tranny friend on her musicstuff she's really had her heart set on a new Macbook, so I have a feeling I have to teach her Logic in the immediate future. She's a good decade older than I and actually has very limited experience with a computer-based studio; she's used to '90s project studio hardware, like, ADATs and shit that she used to have. :lol:

I could pimp Logic and explain the ins-and-outs of it all day long, I think. :lol: It fits well with Apple's overall aesthetic, with one exception- it is reasonably priced. :cop: It's easy to use, more reliable than PT or Cubendo (I am speaking from experience here), pwns PT for MIDI work (okay, this I am a little dated on, but I've not heard anyone mention an improvement to its functionality in that regard) and there's some serious power if you dig even a little into what it offers. And shockingly inexpensive for an Apple offering, as they like to price (and industrial design) themselves into the premium market.

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Post Re: Oh shit, is that Geoff I hear on some surf guitar..?
Yeah I have a hackintosh setup on my desktop which is kept in my work "office" and thus I don't have access to it for music at the minute :cry: I did play with Logic a bit and liked it, but it feels really odd even after using something as simple as Reaper. Little things like I prefer the Reaper pop-out piano roll for adding midi hits rather than having it appear at the bottom of the screen. I wonder if you can change that in Logic? :idk:

I'm (reluctantly) coming back round to the idea of using a Mac as it does make sense for me. Most of my work and hobby time revolves around video production (Final Cut is pretty awesome compared to Premiere), photography stuff (aperture), and music recording/production (logic). Only thing I'd be worried about is not having enough power for the 3d/motion graphics stuff I do but that doesn't happen often any more as I'm heading to more of a video than graphics direction. The 27" iMacs are pretty spiffy. Don't think I could have a macbook as it's all too tempting to take a laptop to bed ( :eyebrows: ) and never end up going to sleep, or indeed wasting time in the morning reading forums etc :red:

I'll probably have an apple of some kind by next August as that's when my sister's student discount (around 15%) runs out :idea:


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Post Re: Oh shit, is that Geoff I hear on some surf guitar..?
Yeah I am heavily consider getting back to hack setup purely for Final Cut.

The problem is Mac laptops are ungodly expensive.

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Post Re: Oh shit, is that Geoff I hear on some surf guitar..?
Yup. £1400 for the 27" iMac :cry: The extra screen space is really handy for video and stuff though.

btw this gentlemans rap is AWESOME. The basslines are especially rad. I love the intro and all the sounds are so good. Is that all Logic? :eyebrows:
You actually have quite a good rap voice, dev :red:

Can the next Banthammer song be something involving duelling-yet-harmonised lead guitar and other such goodness?


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Thanks :isay:, I sound a lot like my brother.

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El-Todgo wrote:
Only thing I'd be worried about is not having enough power for the 3d/motion graphics stuff I do but that doesn't happen often any more as I'm heading to more of a video than graphics direction.


A friend of mine just got a new Mac Pro at his studio last week as his Maya rig; he does a lot of 3d animation work. Like 12 cores or some shit. I couldn't even tell you how much RAM off the top of my head. He maxed it out, that I remember. That is the most beastly machine I've ever used (albeit briefly) in my life.

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El-Todgo wrote:
btw this gentlemans rap is AWESOME. The basslines are especially rad. I love the intro and all the sounds are so good. Is that all Logic? :eyebrows:


The whole thing is mixed in Logic, and the programming was done there as well. Most of the drums were done with Ultrabeat, which, as I mentioned, is a pretty powerful tool. I'm not going nuts with 3rd party plugins, either; besides the Soundtoys stuff which I pimp constantly, there isn't much else on there. Ooh, scratch that, there is Ampeg SVX which is a CPU eater. I may reamp the bass anyway through a GK rig with a ribbon mic for Maximum Girth; the DI was done out of convenience.

And thanks on the bass lines! :isay:

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