Yeah I tip when it's deemed appropriate but I don't like doing it and I don't think they should complain about it - don't like it then get another job that pays better I don't think tipping is as big a thing over here but it's still done at restaurants. Not at bars or takeout places though.

Yeah you're probably right. I mean that's the speech the male one gave us. They had this jukebox though, and it had metal songs in it, so my toonies ended up elsewhere.

Relevant:

I always tip 20%+

;o

Well look at Mr Moneybags over here

Servers here are, last I checked, still exempt from minimum wage*. To not tip in The States is a big social faux pas. At best it's very rude; it's usually "fuck you!" for fucking up an order or being a dick. It's assumed that one will; it's built into the price and the wages of the servers. (Depending on your locale, they are frequently either students or can't find better jobs, because oftentimes there are no jobs.)

The European conventions on tipping are different. It's largely AFAIK uncommon and generally unexpected. They, again, AFAIK, just actually pay the servers. American tourists tip in Europe and Europeans think they're suckers. Europeans don't tip in America, Americans think they're haughty.

It's part social convention, and part that said social convention was built around the fact America has fucked-up labor laws built around a century-long culturally ingrained fear of "socialism" (a word that to Americans often means Leninist (that guy was a severe asshole) Soviet faux-Communism as that's what it's acquired in what passes for political discourse here) that causes poor and middle-class white people to vote against their class interest. Labor or the left hasn't been a potent force in American politics for decades; here we have a conservative party and a reactionary party, and the way we treat workers reflects that.

*- Now, I haven't dug into this one, but I'm suspecting that since these positions were often (and still are) held by women or black people this might just a little bit have factored into this.

But that's a rant. In short, if you're in North America, tip yer server.

I am a fucking hobo, and i also do at least 20%.

15% is definitely the minimum to do for average service.

I tipped 20% when I was in Canada, hence why I only ate at a restaurant probably twice tipping well on beers over there is worth it for getting served quicker.

I usually pay cash at bars ad throw the bartender $1 per drink, always get served quickly and doesn't cost too much (as I don't drink too much )

I'm surprised that didn't get posted sooner.

I did make reference to it in my first poast on the matter

Anyway, less tip squabbling and more awesome stuff

That exchange proved the power of this crew: we can take an inherently off-topic thread and derail even that and make it on-topic, albeit briefly.

Now, here is a man with a fine suit and hat, some sort of motorized quadracycle, and a belt-fed machine gun. This is what this thread is about, dammit. Class and quality, and that brings both to the yard.

Y'know, that image pretty well sums up the residents of this place. That's roughly where we're coming from and what we're on about.

A+ post, would view again, highly recommended.

^So fucking awesomely fascinating.

Cthulhu is a classy touch. Ia! Ia!

Lots of cool old photos and stuff on here - http://www.howtobearetronaut.com/

Fuck, we definitely need an army of spiders for the beastiary. This is so awesome AND creepy